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. >> fiscal cliff negotiations proving once again that obama is never worried about trying to fix the problem. >> how about manning up here, mr. president. >> all he's trying to do is fix the blame. >> the president won. he wants to prove he can dominate. >> 15 auto workers fired are back on tle job tonight. >> hey, guys, hate to be a buzzkill, but shouldn't you guys be building cars? don't you guys work out at the chrysler factory? >> this right to work in michigan is a big deal. and michigan is about to become a right to work state, where you can't get a job without having to join a union. >> these so-called right to work laws don't have anything do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. >> michigan is ground zero for union activity. >> ♪ gangnam style >> this guy should have never been there. they realized he had done this in 2002 and 2004. apologies don't matter. he said we want american troops, their families, wives and kids, to die, die a painful death. you don't apologize for that. you're a bad person. get him out of the white house. >> you're going to hold
. >> fiscal cliff negotiations proving once again that obama is never worried about trying to fix the problem. >> how about manning up here, mr. president. >> all he's trying to do is fix the blame. >> the president won. he wants to prove he can dominate. >> 15 auto workers fired are back on tle job tonight. >> hey, guys, hate to be a buzzkill, but shouldn't you guys be building cars? don't you guys work out at the chrysler factory? >> this right to...
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wile we focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations, or more appropately the iasse many our state governments aren't in much better shape. state pensionsystems, unfunded liabilities are now estimated to be in the range of $2.5 trillion to almt $4 trillion. leading is california witmore than $370 billion in unfunded pension liabilities, only 47% are currently fued. a pension debt per household in california of aost $30,000. illinois close behind, $167 billion in unfundedliabilities, 28% funded, and th state pension debt per household amounting to over $34,000. in municipal bonds illinois sold over $5illin bonds this year making it the third biggest debt issuer in the first tee arters this year. california and new york, numbers e and two with. the issue of unfunded pension liabilities with the passage of right-to-work laws is a subject that i'm going to be taking up with our next guest. -@mallory fctor, author of can the bestseller, "shadow boxes: government nioos control amera and rob taayers blind." we are delighted to have you with us. let's turn first, if i may, to the presiden telling auto
wile we focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations, or more appropately the iasse many our state governments aren't in much better shape. state pensionsystems, unfunded liabilities are now estimated to be in the range of $2.5 trillion to almt $4 trillion. leading is california witmore than $370 billion in unfunded pension liabilities, only 47% are currently fued. a pension debt per household in california of aost $30,000. illinois close behind, $167 billion in unfundedliabilities, 28% funded, and...
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even in the debt ceiling debate or the fiscal cliff negotiations that neither side will give and they're both being unreasonable. and really not drilling down. the other thing they do is they really go back to newt gingrich and grover norquist. as you've talked about both these things, changing the culture of washington and making compromise impossible. >> here's something really naughty, i think in terms of policy. who can forget back in august not a million years ago when the romney pollster neil newhouse said the following. we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers. think about that. fact checkers meaning facts. >> right. >> i was on the show with you the other night. we talked about the quotes of the year. 47%. >> that's a good one. >> i thought this should be the top two of three. that showed their view towards reality. it was an arrogance that we can say whatever we want to say. and i think in years past, this is what's changed. campaigns would not be so brazen. if caught in a lie they maybe feel some shame. here's neil newhouse telling reporters that we don'
even in the debt ceiling debate or the fiscal cliff negotiations that neither side will give and they're both being unreasonable. and really not drilling down. the other thing they do is they really go back to newt gingrich and grover norquist. as you've talked about both these things, changing the culture of washington and making compromise impossible. >> here's something really naughty, i think in terms of policy. who can forget back in august not a million years ago when the romney...
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what do these numbers mean and what do they portend for the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> it strengthens the president's hand. it was a good number, not great, because of some of the revisions we saw to previous months but the president can tout a record of job creation, so that's encouraging. the unemployment rate went down to 7.7% for some of the wrong reasons. a lot of people left the labor force. that's not something you want to see. you want to see more people coming into the labor force, encouraged that they have a chance at getting a job. nonetheless, 146,000 jobs created. that's good for the president. gives him a chance to go out there and have some momentum going into the fiscal cliff talks. i was just at the speaker's press conference down the hall at the top of last hour and he said look, there's no progress being made and his call with the president was just more of the same and the staff talks behind the scenes yesterday were more of the same. he didn't give us a whole lot of optimism going into this weekend here, alex. >> here's my question. i have many q
what do these numbers mean and what do they portend for the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> it strengthens the president's hand. it was a good number, not great, because of some of the revisions we saw to previous months but the president can tout a record of job creation, so that's encouraging. the unemployment rate went down to 7.7% for some of the wrong reasons. a lot of people left the labor force. that's not something you want to see. you want to see more people coming into the labor...
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. >>> to the fiscal cliff negotiations now. it is crunch time. with just three weeks before higher taxes and spending cuts kick in, negotiations are underway, but it's not known what if any progress is being made. speaking in michigan yesterday, the president said he's willing to compromise a little, but the gop wants to know specifics. danielle nottingham has more. >> reporter: president obama's campaign to steer clear of the fiscal cliff took him to a diesel engine plant outside detroit. >> congress doesn't act soon, meaning the next few weeks, starting on january 1, everybody's going to see their income taxes go up. >> reporter: private face-to-face talks were revived this weekend when house speaker john boehner went over to the white house. neither side is releasing details about the conversation, but taxes are still the big sticking point. >> i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us including folks like me get to keep all our tax breaks. >> reporter: republicans have adamantly opposed raising taxes, but now some are co
. >>> to the fiscal cliff negotiations now. it is crunch time. with just three weeks before higher taxes and spending cuts kick in, negotiations are underway, but it's not known what if any progress is being made. speaking in michigan yesterday, the president said he's willing to compromise a little, but the gop wants to know specifics. danielle nottingham has more. >> reporter: president obama's campaign to steer clear of the fiscal cliff took him to a diesel engine plant...
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host: how will the fiscal cliff negotiations affect you? will you lose benefits? caller: i will lose benefits at the end of december, and i will have to go on county assistance to see what they can do to help, but i would rather go back to work. i started picking work when i was 12 years old. host: what are you doing to prepare for the scenario? caller: i am trying to get my ged but i have always had a problem with education. guest: this is a huge issue. people like john are not at the negotiation table. it is tough to consider the full range of decisions. what we find time and time again is that the education and skills component of helping unemployed workers get back into the workforce is a big obstacle. we have 40 programs on the federal level to deal with that, but based on analysis out of rutgers university, is usually people that have been able to find their own education path and get their own skills and out of these government programs have been the most successful. that is a problematic dynamic. host: lisa is next from texas on the independent line. good
host: how will the fiscal cliff negotiations affect you? will you lose benefits? caller: i will lose benefits at the end of december, and i will have to go on county assistance to see what they can do to help, but i would rather go back to work. i started picking work when i was 12 years old. host: what are you doing to prepare for the scenario? caller: i am trying to get my ged but i have always had a problem with education. guest: this is a huge issue. people like john are not at the...
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they look at the role of lobyists in those fiscal cliff negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. on c-span. >> by a majority of 6 to 3 and they are going to say that is precedent. and indiana had a -- >> they decided on the indiana case it was constitutional for them to establish i.d. they did not say that all of those states who have subsequently done that -- >> let me finish because you misrepresent what i said. >> hold on. >> that's the law of the land. >> when i hear these accusations that black people, voter i.d. laws disproportionately affect minorities, it implies to me we have something missing in our brain. to me if white can get i.d.'s to vote and follow the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that they are not good enough, that they are lesser than and that bothers me from democrats on the left that we always have to make special -- there has to be a specialness when we deal with minorities because they are too feebleminded. we need to make concessions for them be
they look at the role of lobyists in those fiscal cliff negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. on c-span. >> by a majority of 6 to 3 and they are going to say that is precedent. and indiana had a -- >> they decided on the indiana case it was constitutional for them to establish i.d. they did not say that all of those states who have subsequently done that -- >> let me finish because you misrepresent what i said. >>...
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senator susan collins of maine tells sawyer that when it comes to the current on-going fiscal cliff negotiations, it would be better if the women were running the show. >> i think if we were in charge of the senate and of the administration, that we would have a budget deal by now. >> go, girl power! now that we're coming up at the end of the year, we're getting a chance to take a look at what set records and who should have set the record straight. first of all twitter has revealed the most retweeted tweet of the year. and it is this photo. if we could -- there you go. from the obama campaign. it popped up election night with the caption four more years. within hours, it not only became the top retweet of the year but the top retweet ever. people in more than 200 countries around the world shared the photo of the president hugging the first lady. and politifact.com says that the romney campaign has the dishonor of having the lie of the year! that would be president obama sold chrysler to italy which would then move u.s. jeep production to china. chrysler denied the claim. the media said it was
senator susan collins of maine tells sawyer that when it comes to the current on-going fiscal cliff negotiations, it would be better if the women were running the show. >> i think if we were in charge of the senate and of the administration, that we would have a budget deal by now. >> go, girl power! now that we're coming up at the end of the year, we're getting a chance to take a look at what set records and who should have set the record straight. first of all twitter has revealed...
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this is the speed of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a deal of its own. yesterday it included precisely the same amount of revenue from the original proposal, $800 billion, which indicates there may have been concessions else where. a democratic source close to the white house tells nbc news the proposal included a permanent extension of the bush tax cuts. that is highly unlikely to fly, given the hard line the president has taken on tax rates and what he told barbara walters in an interview airing this friday on "20/20." >> taxes are going to go up one way or
this is the speed of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue....
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consumer spending is down. >> i want to thank tiffany. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to president obama and john boehner. the uncertainty could take a toll. >> it hasn't affected hiring and layoff decisions yet but it will if we get into next year and haven't nailed this down. >> on monday the president travels to michigan to talked economy at a diesel plant. >> why is superstar sandy plain such a role in the jobs report? >> 24 states were affected one way or the other. businesses had to shut down. between the fiscal cliff and senate come when my has seen it up to 200,000 jobs added. instead we're looking at something more like 100,000 we think. not very good. >> tara mergener, thank you. you can apply for official federal assistance immediately. the deadline is this month for some workers. for more affirmation, call 288- 9050. >> 33 degrees at the airport. after some criticism, could apple be in sourcing its next big project? >> will you be putting fewer gifts under the christmas tree this year? >> a day that still lives in infamy. the anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor. >
consumer spending is down. >> i want to thank tiffany. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to president obama and john boehner. the uncertainty could take a toll. >> it hasn't affected hiring and layoff decisions yet but it will if we get into next year and haven't nailed this down. >> on monday the president travels to michigan to talked economy at a diesel plant. >> why is superstar sandy plain such a role in the jobs report? >> 24 states were...
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after that, a look at the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations between congress and the white house. then a discussion on the role of lobbyists in those talks on the fiscal cliff
after that, a look at the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations between congress and the white house. then a discussion on the role of lobbyists in those talks on the fiscal cliff
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over the fiscal cliff negotiations one thing has become crystal clear. the schisms are becoming more and more pronounce. there are three distinct groups, theological warriors who want to impose their views on the country. tee party zealots and remnant of the pro business moderates while their fiscal views are the last reasonable voice in the republican party. it's this last group who are willing to compromise and combine their ideologies with governing. it is this group bit by bit who are peeling away the extreme views of the rest of the party. the most important question remains are there enough of them to make a deal and reign in the g.o.p. circus. joining me now charles pierce, writer to esquire and author and host of ring of fire and majority report sam seder. do you feel sorry for john boehner who has all these circus folks with him? >> i don't. >> eliot: shocking to me. >> look, he has--he's trying to maintain his caucus, and you know, at the end of the day i don't really invest too heavily about the actual persons of these politicians. the fact th
over the fiscal cliff negotiations one thing has become crystal clear. the schisms are becoming more and more pronounce. there are three distinct groups, theological warriors who want to impose their views on the country. tee party zealots and remnant of the pro business moderates while their fiscal views are the last reasonable voice in the republican party. it's this last group who are willing to compromise and combine their ideologies with governing. it is this group bit by bit who are...
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and peter barnes with the latest developments on the fiscal cliff negotiations, but let's art in chicago with john, two very interesting situations continuing, drama over the fiscal cliff in d.c. and also this week we have the fed meeting. which is more important to the market? >> eventually it will be the fiscal cliff that is more important to the market, but make no doubt about it, the fed meeting with the announcement wednesday morning and wednesday afternoon is going to continue to support risk assets. you were talking about how the dollar is melting up for the fourth consecutive day. the federal reserve will make a very active effort to continue to support risk assets. whether they're equities or commodities. the metals market had a very positive day, recovering a bit with the damage done last week. risk assets are doing well, but over the fiscal cliff for sure in december. liz: the fed, the fed, the fed. they're not going to do anything, but they might announce some sort of easing that is what we constantly talk about and wonder because that has been the trade. with it had a decent
and peter barnes with the latest developments on the fiscal cliff negotiations, but let's art in chicago with john, two very interesting situations continuing, drama over the fiscal cliff in d.c. and also this week we have the fed meeting. which is more important to the market? >> eventually it will be the fiscal cliff that is more important to the market, but make no doubt about it, the fed meeting with the announcement wednesday morning and wednesday afternoon is going to continue to...
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so, in the after hours, it is interpreted as being a positive development in if fiscal cliff negotiations. >> and it was -- >> that's right. >> it was all day. at a point, you have to succumb to the reality that the people have information in hand, it's going to come to you after the fact. people get this stuff, it's a game of horse trading, as tim said. people are looking for resolution. the minute they get a whiff of it, this market is going higher. >> le whaf. >> i think that's right. it is a positive development. it is an indication they are inching towards a deal. but we have a long time to go before now and then and we might need a few more offers before we get there. nobody should think they are going to announce something tomorrow. as soon as i say they -- >> you'll get another leak. >> we are inching towards it here and at some point they're going to have a deal but this thing could blow up at any time, too. this is very tense stuff and a lot of people's political futures are riding on this. >> not to mention the country's. >> and that, too. >> eamon, thank you for the update. ea
so, in the after hours, it is interpreted as being a positive development in if fiscal cliff negotiations. >> and it was -- >> that's right. >> it was all day. at a point, you have to succumb to the reality that the people have information in hand, it's going to come to you after the fact. people get this stuff, it's a game of horse trading, as tim said. people are looking for resolution. the minute they get a whiff of it, this market is going higher. >> le whaf....
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a rare look inside their fiscal cliff negotiations. >>. >> bl those little things still get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for ily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or if you have any allergic reactions such as rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficu
a rare look inside their fiscal cliff negotiations. >>. >> bl those little things still get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for ily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all...
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why the republicans totally tone deaf and why aren't the fiscal cliff negotiations any closer? >> we have been reasonable and responsible in our approach to this. we'll continue to do that. it's time for the president to do his part. >> i'm pretty confident that the republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> eliot: funnying me now to discuss the latest going on in the fiscal cliff saga is congresswoman jackie speier. welcome. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> eliot: rather than saying yes we'll agree to some agree to some marginal rates to the wealthy, they want to make permanent the tax cuts to the wealthy. what's going on in the head of john boehner. >> i'm not sure it's the head of john boehner but the heads of the tea party members who did not read the results of the last election. it's important to realize that the bipartisan bill by republicans and democrats in the senate were passed extending the tax cuts for those making under $250,000, and fixes the amg which we have not spent much time ta
why the republicans totally tone deaf and why aren't the fiscal cliff negotiations any closer? >> we have been reasonable and responsible in our approach to this. we'll continue to do that. it's time for the president to do his part. >> i'm pretty confident that the republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> eliot: funnying me now to discuss the latest going on in the fiscal cliff saga is congresswoman...
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tomorrow, on washington journal, guests discussed the latest on the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and the week ahead. a politico reporter looks at the lobbyist involvement in those negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 63, i believe and they are going to say that is president. and indiana -- >> we are talking about facts. when they decided the indiana case, it was constitutional for them to establish it. they did not say all the states -- >> correct. they talked about indiana. let me finish peeping >> you are misrepresenting. >> no, i am not. >> i hear these accusations that black people, a voter i.d. lost disproportionately affect minorities. it implies to me that we have something missing in our brains. to me, if white americans can get it to vote and go through all the processes to follow the laws, what are you telling black people? that somehow they are not able to? they are lesser the man? that is what bothers me about the rhetoric coming from demo
tomorrow, on washington journal, guests discussed the latest on the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and the week ahead. a politico reporter looks at the lobbyist involvement in those negotiations. and an update on the situation in syria. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 63, i believe and they are going to say that is president. and indiana -- >> we are talking about facts. when they decided the...
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we'll have the latest on the slow, unfolding drama, emphasis on slow, that is the fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house and speaker boehner trade proposals and tension. we will discuss with house democratic whip steny hoyer, ezra klein, sam stein, jane mayer, and jen zocki. plus, csi gop, as the republicans make the long slog to redemption, we discuss lessons learned. and the war on women rages on in the lone star state. we will look at planned parenthood's fight in texas. all that starts in a mere 180 seconds. ♪ [ male announcer ] we began serving handcrafted coffees in seattle, and people seemed to like it. so we wondered -- where else could we take this? ♪ for over 40 years, we've brought our passion for fine coffee and espresso to people everywhere. but one place was impossible, until now. our lattes, espresso and brewed coffee, now in your home from a machine like no other. and now $50 off through january 1st. the verismo® system, by starbucks. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other h
we'll have the latest on the slow, unfolding drama, emphasis on slow, that is the fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house and speaker boehner trade proposals and tension. we will discuss with house democratic whip steny hoyer, ezra klein, sam stein, jane mayer, and jen zocki. plus, csi gop, as the republicans make the long slog to redemption, we discuss lessons learned. and the war on women rages on in the lone star state. we will look at planned parenthood's fight in texas. all that starts...
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tomorrow, we will talk about the latest news about the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations with a former congressional budget office director. then a look at the lobbying going on in washington. later, a look at developments in syria and the response from the international community. "washington journal" here on c- span. this week, we will have the vermont governor and new chairman of the democratic governors' association, who will talk about the fiscal cliff and laying the groundwork for the 2013 and 2014 elections. lives on sunday at 10:00 a.m. eastern. next, a quick look at president obama and the first family last week at the national christmas tree lighting ceremony. ♪ [applause] >> merry christmas, everybody! >> it is great to see you all. happy holidays. happy holidays, mr. president. >> is it time? i think it's time. i hope everybody is ready. we have to do the countdown. starting with five. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. [cheers] ♪ >> merry christmas, everybody. ♪ >> please welcome the director of washington and st. john's church. >> let us about our heads in prayer. let us prey. gracious
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melissa: we have more breaking news on the fiscal cliff negotiations now. a senior white house aide confirms the obama administration is offering $1.4 trillion in revenue. you remember the previous offer by the white house was 1.6 trillion in revenue. so a little decline there but, no talk of spending right? we'll bring you more details as we have them. >>> the tragic death of dallas cowboys player is sparking debate how much control employers can imposed over their workers. over the weekend krou boys linebacker jerry brown was killed in a drunk driving accident with fellow teammate josh brent at the wheel. the cowboys are considering installing a device called safe-key in every player's car. it prevents cars from driving if the driver doesn't pass a visual hand-eye coordination test. the cowboys won't be the first organization to have rules. here at "money" we told you about it. ri health which fired 150 workers for not getting flu shots. the question is, are these kinds of rules fair to employees and are they even legal? here to figure this out is attorne
melissa: we have more breaking news on the fiscal cliff negotiations now. a senior white house aide confirms the obama administration is offering $1.4 trillion in revenue. you remember the previous offer by the white house was 1.6 trillion in revenue. so a little decline there but, no talk of spending right? we'll bring you more details as we have them. >>> the tragic death of dallas cowboys player is sparking debate how much control employers can imposed over their workers. over the...
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and more people trust him to handle fiscal cliff negotiations than speaker boehner to handle the pole. poll. is that why people feel he's going to win at least talking about taxes. >> one, the approval rating is very high. two, republicans go either way. whether republicans want to cut a deal and raise taxes just on the rich or whether they won't go with a deal on january 1st, you'll see taxes to rise on everybody. there's a feeling with democrats they're going to win and get what they want either way. this is trufrustrating republic. when i talk to republicans privately, they say this is hugest from trags. the speaker has put $800 billion on the table and said he would go higher than if the president would come along with spending cuts. >> how high are you hearing? >> it's unclear. i think he's just signaling a willingness which many republicans tell me will also end up being a move on the tax rates. but he can't go there with his caucus, unless he has the spending cuts that he can sell $800 billion in revenue, and we're going to get you $800 billion in spending cuts. democrats don't
and more people trust him to handle fiscal cliff negotiations than speaker boehner to handle the pole. poll. is that why people feel he's going to win at least talking about taxes. >> one, the approval rating is very high. two, republicans go either way. whether republicans want to cut a deal and raise taxes just on the rich or whether they won't go with a deal on january 1st, you'll see taxes to rise on everybody. there's a feeling with democrats they're going to win and get what they...
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cliff negotiations. >> for video of other events we have covered about the fiscal cliff, see our special web page. there's also a live twitter stream with comments from the ridge and reporters and a resource area with related documents and links. c-span.org/fiscal cliff. >> an update from capitol hill reporter on the latest in the senate on president obama's proposal on the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling. this is about five minutes. >> andrew taylor covers congress for the associated press. there were some attempts by mitch mcconnell to get roll-call votes on the president's debt plan and his fiscal cliff plan and the debt ceiling plan. what was he trying to do? >> guest: he was trying to embarrass the democrats. for instance, the president's plan on the debt ceiling was basically allowing the president to request whatever increases without the approval of congress and he thought that would embarrass democrats if they had to vote for it particularly endangered ones. >> sounded like leader reid took the bait. how the democrats respond? >> guest: there are a lot in politics going on her
cliff negotiations. >> for video of other events we have covered about the fiscal cliff, see our special web page. there's also a live twitter stream with comments from the ridge and reporters and a resource area with related documents and links. c-span.org/fiscal cliff. >> an update from capitol hill reporter on the latest in the senate on president obama's proposal on the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling. this is about five minutes. >> andrew taylor covers congress for the...
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then all look at the lobbying going around the fiscal cliff negotiations by clients in washington. our guest is anna palmer. and later a discussion on syria and the response from the international community. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c-span. this week on news makers, the vermont governor and chair of the democratic governors' association peter shumlin. he talks about the fiscal cliff and laying the groundwork for the 2013-2014 election. that is at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> in president obama's weekly address, he talks about tax policy, the tax cuts put in place by the previous administration that will expire at the end of the year. then the republican address on the economy, jobs, and education policy. >> hello, everybody. over the last few weeks, there's been a lot of talk about deadlines we're facing on jobs and taxes and investments. but with so much noise and so many opinions flying around, it can be easy to lose sight of what this debate is really about. it's not about which political party comes out on top, or who wins or loses in washington. it's about making
then all look at the lobbying going around the fiscal cliff negotiations by clients in washington. our guest is anna palmer. and later a discussion on syria and the response from the international community. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern here on c-span. this week on news makers, the vermont governor and chair of the democratic governors' association peter shumlin. he talks about the fiscal cliff and laying the groundwork for the 2013-2014 election. that is at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >>...
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negotiations continue in washington on the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama plans to enter questions from business members. the group has been urging action to prevent huge automatic tax increases in january. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. [video clip] >> we have not coordinated care. all these services have so many cracks that the cracks are as harmful as the diseases that we're treating. you have to step back and ask, are we hurting people overall? what are we doing? now we have the report saying 30% of everything we do not be necessary in health care. 30% of medications we subscribe, the test and procedures we order. this is something for the first time been called out as a problem. >> this function in the health- care industry. what hospitals will not tell you. urday night at 10:00 p.m. on c-span2. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we have been focusing on different aspects of the fiscal cliff. we want to look at capital gains tax and the estate tax. what is the estate tax? guest: it goes back to history --
negotiations continue in washington on the so-called fiscal cliff. president obama plans to enter questions from business members. the group has been urging action to prevent huge automatic tax increases in january. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. [video clip] >> we have not coordinated care. all these services have so many cracks that the cracks are as harmful as the diseases that we're treating. you have to step back and ask, are we hurting people overall? what...
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. >> that was speaker of the house john boehner making remarks on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations. jim, not giving us a ton to chew on there other than talking about a sea of red i think as far as the eye can see and the lack of seriousness. >> sharp ability to cut to the real matter. i think people are scratching their head at why we just had to watch that. >> you never know. there has been silence, right? there has been silence for the last two days, so perhaps, as david corn suggested to me earlier in makeup, this is boehner's bid to get some air time. >> yes. >> i think the story is pretty simple. the republicans are going to keep saying that every single day, and the president is going to keep saying raise taxes every single day until behind the scenes the two of them get a deal. i am still an optimist that they will get a deal. i think it's manifestly in both of their self interests. i don't think the president's hand is as strong as he thinks it is, and i think boehner has much more incentive than he leads on to figure out a way to get a deal to avert this. neither of these
. >> that was speaker of the house john boehner making remarks on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations. jim, not giving us a ton to chew on there other than talking about a sea of red i think as far as the eye can see and the lack of seriousness. >> sharp ability to cut to the real matter. i think people are scratching their head at why we just had to watch that. >> you never know. there has been silence, right? there has been silence for the last two days, so perhaps,...
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our next guest explains how the presidential campaign has undermined the fiscal cliff negotiations. we're back in a moment. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong for generations to come. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. >>> welcome back to "morning joe" on this wednesday morning. still a little chilly. no big storms in sight at least this week. i'll explain in a second. first things first. windchills, a little ch
our next guest explains how the presidential campaign has undermined the fiscal cliff negotiations. we're back in a moment. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong...
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cliff negotiations. but now we want to open up the phones. and if you have questions for mr. goldfarb about the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and tax issues, the numbers are up on the screen. 202-5853. and of course you can also contact us via social media. we'll pull put up those addresses as well. and you can send an email to journal@c-span.org. now, we have this tweet for you, mr. goldfarb. guest: i think dozens of them are for businesses and i don't knowify want to describe them as -- know if i want to describe them as corporate welfare, but as was mentioned, the research and development tax credit, the tax credits to motorsports complexes, otherwise known as nascar tax break, there are tax breaks for retailers, for restaurants, for railroads. the list goes on. so a lot of them are for businesses. host: independence day tweets in -- guest: i'm not exactly sure who is responsible for that provision originally. but it's not very expensive. that's one of the reasons why something like that will ke
cliff negotiations. but now we want to open up the phones. and if you have questions for mr. goldfarb about the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and tax issues, the numbers are up on the screen. 202-5853. and of course you can also contact us via social media. we'll pull put up those addresses as well. and you can send an email to journal@c-span.org. now, we have this tweet for you, mr. goldfarb. guest: i think dozens of them are for businesses and i don't knowify want to describe them as --...
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cliff negotiations. and late today mr. obama said the administration will recognize a coalition of syrian opposition groups. online, we look at a truly long- term reporting assignment. hari sreenivasan has more. >> sreenivasan: paul salopek is about to spend seven years tracing the ancient path of human migration around the globe. we talked about his route, the shoes he'll wear, and his emphasis on "slow journalism." and what's it like to have breast cancer in the poorest nation in the western hemisphere? that's next from our series with "pri's the world" on cancer in the developing world. all that and more is on our web site, newshour.pbs.org. ray? >> suarez: and that's the newshour for tonight. on wednesday, we'll look at the world in the year 2030. one intelligence report projects china will be on top economically, and the u.s. will be energy-independent. i'm ray suarez. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. we'll see you online, and again here tomorrow evening. thank you, and good night. major funding
cliff negotiations. and late today mr. obama said the administration will recognize a coalition of syrian opposition groups. online, we look at a truly long- term reporting assignment. hari sreenivasan has more. >> sreenivasan: paul salopek is about to spend seven years tracing the ancient path of human migration around the globe. we talked about his route, the shoes he'll wear, and his emphasis on "slow journalism." and what's it like to have breast cancer in the poorest nation...
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negotiations for the fiscal cliff continue in washington. house members spoke about the issue today on a resolution that would allow the house to take up measures through december 28. this is just over an hour. on. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one hour. mr. sessions: thank you very much, mr. speaker. for the purpose of debate only, i yield theustomary 30 minutes to the gentlewoman from fair point, new york, my dear friend, the ranking member on the committee, ms. slaughter, pending which i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. sessions: thank you very much. during consideration of this resolution, all time is yielded for the purpose of debate only. mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. sessions: i rise today in support of thisule which will provide this body the ability to consider legislation under suspension of t
negotiations for the fiscal cliff continue in washington. house members spoke about the issue today on a resolution that would allow the house to take up measures through december 28. this is just over an hour. on. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one hour. mr. sessions: thank you very much, mr. speaker. for the purpose of debate only, i yield theustomary 30 minutes to the gentlewoman from fair point, new york, my dear friend, the ranking member on the...
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cliff negotiations in washington is our colleague and friend ruth marcus from "the washington post." columnist for "the washington post." ruth, this whole issue in the midwest, this used to be most likely in the southern states, but this really is moving, and we're seeing a real decline in union household membership about half what it was 40 years ago. it used to be 24%. now it's 11.8%. >> unions are reeling, and the more states that enact measures like this, the more unions will be reeling. their penetration, the private sector is something like 7% of the private sector work force is unionized, and i have to say -- i don't use words like this very often, i thought some of the governor's comments were kind of orwelian to suggest this was a pro-worker move. it's clearly a move that may help businesses, but what a kick in the teeth to autoworkers unions, who as you correctly point d out, gave a lot back to help the auto industry get back on its feet, the notion that we had to do this now with this lame-duck session because they raised it in some other proposition is bizarre to me, and
cliff negotiations in washington is our colleague and friend ruth marcus from "the washington post." columnist for "the washington post." ruth, this whole issue in the midwest, this used to be most likely in the southern states, but this really is moving, and we're seeing a real decline in union household membership about half what it was 40 years ago. it used to be 24%. now it's 11.8%. >> unions are reeling, and the more states that enact measures like this, the more...
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that seems unlikely to be changed as part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. you'll still see that surtax on top of that. host: this from twitter. guest: i leave that as it is. host: is that how much it could go up? guest: yes. host: currently it is 35%. go ahead, mark. caller: the previous caller mentioned capital gains -- the recent point about the medicare surcharge to pay for the affordable care act. if he thought it could be a solution to kill both of those birds with one stone. guest: i'm not a health-care expert. host: no problem. we have this from twitter. guest: i believe that is the case. tom in california, go ahead. caller: i have several issues with the estate tax. i am a farmer if it comes back to the normal 1 million exemptions. we work together to build this estate. it wasn't just my parents but it is in my parents' name. i have to pay tax to something i have contributed to. host: help people understand how farmers fall into this estate tax? how is it your estate is worth more than $1 million? caller: we have about 1,000 acres in sonoma county,
that seems unlikely to be changed as part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. you'll still see that surtax on top of that. host: this from twitter. guest: i leave that as it is. host: is that how much it could go up? guest: yes. host: currently it is 35%. go ahead, mark. caller: the previous caller mentioned capital gains -- the recent point about the medicare surcharge to pay for the affordable care act. if he thought it could be a solution to kill both of those birds with one stone. guest: i'm...
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we're now in the middle of negotiations over the fiscal cliff. one element of this is are republicans going to be in this position, once again, to take the debt ceiling and the good faith and credit the u.s. hostage? president obama says we can't be in that position, again. and you are described, you, the press says, well, he said, listen. this is extraordinary. you ought to be talking about the damage caused by -- >> there's no doubt on this debt ceiling issue. look, this is part of the negotiations, this is in the middle of the, sort of the three tiered. they have a better chance of agreeing on taxes and entitlements than the debt ceiling. boehner who himself may agree, if we can't have this fight again because the business community will absolutely go crazy about it. he's got to bring back a political tool or some piece of victory. >> i would say, chuck, actually, the reporting now is better than it was a year ago. and some of what's happened is i think reporters have come to realize and many even republicans around that it's a party that went
we're now in the middle of negotiations over the fiscal cliff. one element of this is are republicans going to be in this position, once again, to take the debt ceiling and the good faith and credit the u.s. hostage? president obama says we can't be in that position, again. and you are described, you, the press says, well, he said, listen. this is extraordinary. you ought to be talking about the damage caused by -- >> there's no doubt on this debt ceiling issue. look, this is part of the...
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cliff negotiations. two questions on that. one is, does that suggest that there is movement, so we're no longer talking about tax cuts or tax increases? and where is the administration, i know you guys have argued back that they have provided details on spending cuts, but are you prepared to offer more? today you have a letter from c.b.o.'s urging that spending cuts, entitlement adjustments and so forth be a multiple, a greater multiple than revenues. is the white house prepared to do more on that front? >> let me take your questions in relative order. first of all, i did hear what the speaker of the house had to say. and i would note that if there is one fact that should not be in dispute it ought to be this, the president, unlike any other party to these negotiations, has put forward detailed spending cuts as well as detailed revenue proposals. it is a simple fact that the president put those forward to the nat so super supercommittee in september of 2011. and that he again in the process of these nego
cliff negotiations. two questions on that. one is, does that suggest that there is movement, so we're no longer talking about tax cuts or tax increases? and where is the administration, i know you guys have argued back that they have provided details on spending cuts, but are you prepared to offer more? today you have a letter from c.b.o.'s urging that spending cuts, entitlement adjustments and so forth be a multiple, a greater multiple than revenues. is the white house prepared to do more on...
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we follow the tiny makkah nations of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the markets are up. apple has become a day trader's stock. on "varney and company" we never get into stuff like support levels. that is what is happening with apple right now. it is up $13 all over the place. limited brands paid the three dollar, one time dividend. this is the company -- paying a record penalty of $1.9 billion in a money-laundering case, failing to maintain effective anti money-laundering program. watch out, 90 seconds is all you got to wait for the judge back on a ruling on north carolina. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the hearof yr portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes vestment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. look this isn't my firschristmas. these deals all seem grea
we follow the tiny makkah nations of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the markets are up. apple has become a day trader's stock. on "varney and company" we never get into stuff like support levels. that is what is happening with apple right now. it is up $13 all over the place. limited brands paid the three dollar, one time dividend. this is the company -- paying a record penalty of $1.9 billion in a money-laundering case, failing to maintain effective anti money-laundering program....
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on the negotiations on the fiscal cliff. obviously optimism is running high right now. we're up five days in a row now on the dow jones industrial average. as far as what the markets are doing, we're being led today by tech stocks. apple is having a decent day although it still doesn't have a trading range. at least not in my opinion. it's trying to trade between 500 and $600. i don't know which way it's going to go. texas instruments having a very good day. rauzed their fourth quarter outlook. they're getting out of the mobile chip market. altera is okay. two sectors having a big day. defense stocks, number one. who would have thought? what sequestration worries are there? this is a historic high. the philadelphia defense index, the main index everyone watches in defense stocks, historic high today. all the big name defense stocks are to the upside. raytheon, northrop, rockwell. all are up and outperforming the market this month. who would have thunk it? say what you will. these stocks are having big worries on sequestration. put up my two main points and i'll tell you
on the negotiations on the fiscal cliff. obviously optimism is running high right now. we're up five days in a row now on the dow jones industrial average. as far as what the markets are doing, we're being led today by tech stocks. apple is having a decent day although it still doesn't have a trading range. at least not in my opinion. it's trying to trade between 500 and $600. i don't know which way it's going to go. texas instruments having a very good day. rauzed their fourth quarter outlook....
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stocks higher as investors continue to focus their attention on wassington and the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. the dow up 14 points. a settlement has been reached in a sexual assault lawsuit followed by new york hotel maid against former imf chief. the maid claims he attacked her in his room back in may of last year. no details with sediment will remain confident she'll. he did not appear in court today but was recommended by his attorney. hockey fans getting hit and checked. new york canceling games through december 30. they continue with a total of 526 regular-season games that were scheduled for octobe october 11-december 30. that is the latest from the fox news network to be the power to prosper. the ninth receiving the nobel peace prize. fostering peace on a continent ravaged by two devastating world wars. south africa archbishop, demanding that the $1.2 million prize money not be granted this year. the eu should not receive it because it relies on military force to ensure security. the deep economic crisis, europe, of course, suffering from high unemployment. security measu
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cliff negotiations. he tells cnn he is starting to see more and more republicans coming around to the idea of raising taxes on the top 2%. there is a letter that acknowledges that there is just so much that individual members can do at this point. after the election, we saw more than 65 petitions pop up on a white house webpage people asking that their state succeed from the union. puerto rico may be going the other direction. the majority of voters want in. some officials say the two-part question on the ballot was confusing and unclear, and not an indication that people there want to be a part of the united states, but others say the change is definitely coming. we're back after the break. come with us. ♪ every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around th
cliff negotiations. he tells cnn he is starting to see more and more republicans coming around to the idea of raising taxes on the top 2%. there is a letter that acknowledges that there is just so much that individual members can do at this point. after the election, we saw more than 65 petitions pop up on a white house webpage people asking that their state succeed from the union. puerto rico may be going the other direction. the majority of voters want in. some officials say the two-part...
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i don't think it will affect the fiscal cliff negotiations at all. we may go up to an 8% unemployment rate again. that's what we may do. it was 7.9 in october. it could be 8% in the number out today. >> brian: stewart, we're going to be watching this. we're going to be tossing to you to bring us the numbers as they come in for some instant analysis. so you'll small cast on the "fox business" network and our network. >> 8:30, we get the number this morning. >> brian: then you will change outfits, maybe hair styles and at 9:20 lost varney and company. >> totally different guy at 9:20. >> brian: thanks. have a great weekend. >> thanks. >> brian: i know you don't like to talk to me in the halls. coming up straight ahead, fema workers told to go sightseeing instead of helping sandy victims. that scary story ahead. then he was told he would never walk again. but the man you're about to meet is defying the odds. his motivation? to walk down the aisle. that story, more on that coming your way. i'm doing my own sleep study. advil pm® or tylenol pm. the advil
i don't think it will affect the fiscal cliff negotiations at all. we may go up to an 8% unemployment rate again. that's what we may do. it was 7.9 in october. it could be 8% in the number out today. >> brian: stewart, we're going to be watching this. we're going to be tossing to you to bring us the numbers as they come in for some instant analysis. so you'll small cast on the "fox business" network and our network. >> 8:30, we get the number this morning. >> brian:...
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and as the fiscal cliff negotiations continue we spoke earlier today with a capitol hill reporter. >> what was the purpose of speaker boehner's appearance to speak about the fiscal cliff? >> you saw each major congressional player give some sort of speech but i think anything happening of consequence is happening between speaker bayne around the president and it's happening in a closely guarded, off-camera, way, they're actually trying to negotiate a deal and the rule of washington is when a deal is being done, people don't talk about it. when a deal is collapse, you know because they're both shouting about what the other side is doing. you saw speaker boehner and senate leader mitch mcconnel and jay carney from the white house press room, nancy pelosi, and harry reid saying we still want to see what they're willing to do before we move forward. it's the same line we've heard for a long time, we're just closer to the deadline now. >> in harry reid's comments he seemed to give an indication of a timetable. did he seem optimistic or pessimistic about getting it done? >> he seemed pessim
and as the fiscal cliff negotiations continue we spoke earlier today with a capitol hill reporter. >> what was the purpose of speaker boehner's appearance to speak about the fiscal cliff? >> you saw each major congressional player give some sort of speech but i think anything happening of consequence is happening between speaker bayne around the president and it's happening in a closely guarded, off-camera, way, they're actually trying to negotiate a deal and the rule of washington...
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cliff negotiations. the democratic leadership is preparing to respond. we will bring you comments from senators harry reid and dick durbin. that is live, and that is coming up. >>> the "cnbc realtime exchange market snapshot" is brought to you by interactive brokers. >>> it is time for another capital markets op-ed. buybacks. >> you guys covered this yesterday at great length. i hoped to look at some of the newspapers today, "the wall street journal" was the only newspaper somewhat critical about this. look, warren buffett will be buying back stocks. he was never going to buy back stock or split the stock. he was never going to put the stock in the s&p 500. if this is not hypocritical to the maximum level -- no, no, no. he has changed. >> oh, a long time ago. >> a long time ago. never believed in buybacks. never would split a stock into the "b" shares and would never go into the s&p 500. you don't want closet indexes owning the name. that's some of the hypocrisy. but given the fact that he took out one o
cliff negotiations. the democratic leadership is preparing to respond. we will bring you comments from senators harry reid and dick durbin. that is live, and that is coming up. >>> the "cnbc realtime exchange market snapshot" is brought to you by interactive brokers. >>> it is time for another capital markets op-ed. buybacks. >> you guys covered this yesterday at great length. i hoped to look at some of the newspapers today, "the wall street journal"...
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is not bad, let's assume not bad, it puts even more of a focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a theory of how i could cause a recession. i would cut back government spending quickly. >> i would raise interest rates to 20%. >> bernanke ought to join the -- look, i think this is what's going to happen. i think it's 50-50 we get a deal. no vacation. no legislation, no vacation. i think that when people get their paycheck at the end of january, they are going to be shocked at how much lower it is. i know these guys in washington, their paycheck isn't affected. i think when you get your paycheck, you're going to say i hate that. it is going to be that big. it's going to be very -- the takeout is going to be
is not bad, let's assume not bad, it puts even more of a focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a...
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take a dip in right now to the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. boehner and obama see how it's going. can we see it? i'm just kidding. that is ukraine parliament handling things the way, probably the way it should be done. that's it. bob, you're up. >> bob: i thought that was the republican house caucus. >> greg: unions. >> bob: of course. [ laughter ] there is a guy by the name of joe luken in minnesota. he owns legisry stores and a big market chain that wanted to buy his stores when he put them up for sale and he decided instead of doing that he would turn them over, all of them to the employees, 400 of them. and kio plan because without them he never would have been successful. congratulate him for doing that, particularly in the christmas season. wonderful gesture on your part, joe, and your employees will carry on to make more success out of the stores. nice thing to do. >> eric: gregory? >> greg: first, i'll read the horoscope. sometimes it's smart to let your rivals win and this could be one of those occasions. untie the armenian man from t
take a dip in right now to the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. boehner and obama see how it's going. can we see it? i'm just kidding. that is ukraine parliament handling things the way, probably the way it should be done. that's it. bob, you're up. >> bob: i thought that was the republican house caucus. >> greg: unions. >> bob: of course. [ laughter ] there is a guy by the name of joe luken in minnesota. he owns legisry stores and a big market chain that wanted to buy his...